From k1uo at tds.net Sun Apr 26 16:08:43 2015 From: k1uo at tds.net (Larry - K1UO) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 4-8 Pro on sloping land Message-ID: <6ED1E31EB38F4B8B81AAAC83BBB98964@DenComputer> Hi all, The 4-8 Pro system is finally being reinstalled at a new qth using the 113ft circumference design. This time the array is in an open field but on an overall sloping area with about a 4 to 5 degree slope from the East side and lowest toward the West side. A not so scientific guess would be that the vertical bases may be as much as 2ft lower on the West side than the East. Has anyone already installed their array in a situation such as this and did you notice any particular degradation or enhancement of the array performance? Larry K1UO From davek4sv at yahoo.com Sun Apr 26 17:41:00 2015 From: davek4sv at yahoo.com (Dave Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:41:00 -0400 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 4-8 Pro on sloping land In-Reply-To: <6ED1E31EB38F4B8B81AAAC83BBB98964@DenComputer> References: <6ED1E31EB38F4B8B81AAAC83BBB98964@DenComputer> Message-ID: <9DB60004-C624-4826-BF67-1C1AA1C98DD8@yahoo.com> Hi Larry My 8 circle has probably 5 to 8 feet different elevation. I've checked the performance carefully and I see not degradation. Last week I removed the Antennas amps and disconnected the Antenna feedlines at the phase controllers, this keeps ground currents on lightning hits to nearby trees etc from damaging the phase controller. I'm chicken, it's costly when array gets damaged. Good luck, 73 Thanks, Dave Anderson, K4SV Sent from my iPhone 6+ > On Apr 26, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Larry - K1UO wrote: > > Hi all, > > The 4-8 Pro system is finally being reinstalled at a new qth using the 113ft circumference design. This time the array is in an open field but on an overall sloping area with about a 4 to 5 degree slope from the East side and lowest toward the West side. A not so scientific guess would be that the vertical bases may be as much as 2ft lower on the West side than the East. Has anyone already installed their array in a situation such as this and did you notice any particular degradation or enhancement of the array performance? > > Larry K1UO > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From k1uo at tds.net Sun Apr 26 18:37:10 2015 From: k1uo at tds.net (Larry - K1UO) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:37:10 -0400 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 4-8 Pro on sloping land In-Reply-To: <9DB60004-C624-4826-BF67-1C1AA1C98DD8@yahoo.com> References: <6ED1E31EB38F4B8B81AAAC83BBB98964@DenComputer> <9DB60004-C624-4826-BF67-1C1AA1C98DD8@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69399BDA8C9A4BDE9132633683AEE7E6@DenComputer> Thanks Dave, Just the kind of real world info I needed to make a decision. Much appreciated and enjoy your Summer. Regards Larry k1UO -----Original Message----- From: Dave Anderson Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:41 PM To: Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 4-8 Pro on sloping land Hi Larry My 8 circle has probably 5 to 8 feet different elevation. I've checked the performance carefully and I see not degradation. Last week I removed the Antennas amps and disconnected the Antenna feedlines at the phase controllers, this keeps ground currents on lightning hits to nearby trees etc from damaging the phase controller. I'm chicken, it's costly when array gets damaged. Good luck, 73 Thanks, Dave Anderson, K4SV Sent from my iPhone 6+ > On Apr 26, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Larry - K1UO wrote: > > Hi all, > > The 4-8 Pro system is finally being reinstalled at a new qth using the > 113ft circumference design. This time the array is in an open field but > on an overall sloping area with about a 4 to 5 degree slope from the East > side and lowest toward the West side. A not so scientific guess would be > that the vertical bases may be as much as 2ft lower on the West side than > the East. Has anyone already installed their array in a situation such as > this and did you notice any particular degradation or enhancement of the > array performance? > > Larry K1UO > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From k7tjr at msn.com Sun Apr 26 22:39:17 2015 From: k7tjr at msn.com (Lee K7TJR) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:39:17 -0700 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 4-8 Pro on sloping land In-Reply-To: <6ED1E31EB38F4B8B81AAAC83BBB98964@DenComputer> References: <6ED1E31EB38F4B8B81AAAC83BBB98964@DenComputer> Message-ID: Hi Larry, As near as I can tell, the only change in the pattern as a result of you 5 degree slope will be that the peak pattern will be up 5 degrees in the up direction and down 5 degrees in the down direction. This generally would likely never be noticed. I have programmed this by looking at elements leaned over in Eznec and it confirms the pattern peak follows the slope. Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Larry - K1UO Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:09 PM To: Hi-Z Reflector Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 4-8 Pro on sloping land Hi all, The 4-8 Pro system is finally being reinstalled at a new qth using the 113ft circumference design. This time the array is in an open field but on an overall sloping area with about a 4 to 5 degree slope from the East side and lowest toward the West side. A not so scientific guess would be that the vertical bases may be as much as 2ft lower on the West side than the East. Has anyone already installed their array in a situation such as this and did you notice any particular degradation or enhancement of the array performance? Larry K1UO _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com