From k7tjr at msn.com Thu Nov 20 17:55:20 2014 From: k7tjr at msn.com (Lee K7TJR) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:55:20 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] Telephone Message-ID: Effective now please use my cell number for all Hi-Z matters. 503-307-1498 The 541 number is no longer in use. I will change the website as soon as I can. Thanks, Lee K7TJR Hi-Z Antennas From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 22 09:20:09 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:20:09 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> Hello Is any way to modify control rotary box so rotary knob don?t stop? I want it to rotate in any way, like StackMatch controls For now I will need to put my verticals in this way: V5 to 0 degree V6 to 45 degrees V7 to 90 V8 to 135 V1 to 180 V2 to 225 V3 to 270 V4 to 315 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From n1rj at roadrunner.com Sat Nov 22 09:53:36 2014 From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:53:36 -0500 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout In-Reply-To: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> References: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5470A370.3070106@roadrunner.com> Hi Jorge... I modified my control box with this switch: C&K A12515RNZQ It's available from Mouser and Digikey in USA. It's 8 position and the stop can be removed. 73, Roger On 11/22/2014 9:20 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > Hello > > Is any way to modify control rotary box so rotary knob don?t stop? I want it > to rotate in any way, like StackMatch controls > > For now I will need to put my verticals in this way: > > V5 to 0 degree > V6 to 45 degrees > V7 to 90 > V8 to 135 > V1 to 180 > V2 to 225 > V3 to 270 > V4 to 315 > > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > > > --- > Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com > From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 22 11:09:17 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:09:17 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout In-Reply-To: <5470A370.3070106@roadrunner.com> References: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> <5470A370.3070106@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <5470b52a.240d340a.4aea.ffffafa8@mx.google.com> Thanks Roger! Will do it. But for next weekend will need to use it with the assignments I mentioned in my email. Anyway I will need to remove verticals and coaxial feeding box after CQWW CW till I have time to do a good installation with coaxial underground or protecting 113ft circle in some way because I have some cows in this land. Hopefully will receive the switch in time for ARRL160 or CQWW CW 160 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Roger D Johnson Enviado el: s?bado, 22 de noviembre de 2014 12:54 p.m. Para: Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout Hi Jorge... I modified my control box with this switch: C&K A12515RNZQ It's available from Mouser and Digikey in USA. It's 8 position and the stop can be removed. 73, Roger On 11/22/2014 9:20 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > Hello > > Is any way to modify control rotary box so rotary knob don?t stop? I > want it to rotate in any way, like StackMatch controls > > For now I will need to put my verticals in this way: > > V5 to 0 degree > V6 to 45 degrees > V7 to 90 > V8 to 135 > V1 to 180 > V2 to 225 > V3 to 270 > V4 to 315 > > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > > > --- > Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscuss > ions_hizantennas.com > _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From k4zw at verizon.net Sat Nov 22 12:59:40 2014 From: k4zw at verizon.net (Ken Claerbout) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout In-Reply-To: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> References: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Jorge - I bought a new rotary switch for my control box. It switches every 45 degrees and is continuous rotation. Sorry I don't have the part number anymore but have a look at the Grayhill webpage. They have all kinds of options available. Ken K4ZW -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:20 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Cc: k7tjr at msn.com ; k3lr at k3lr.com Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout Hello Is any way to modify control rotary box so rotary knob don?t stop? I want it to rotate in any way, like StackMatch controls For now I will need to put my verticals in this way: V5 to 0 degree V6 to 45 degrees V7 to 90 V8 to 135 V1 to 180 V2 to 225 V3 to 270 V4 to 315 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 22 13:13:40 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez CX6VM) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:13:40 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout In-Reply-To: References: <54709b98.c300340a.5f84.ffffab49@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ken for the information Will look at this site, anyway I have a part number sent by Roger 73 Jorge Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 22/11/2014, a las 15:59, "Ken Claerbout" escribi?: > > Jorge - I bought a new rotary switch for my control box. It switches every 45 degrees and is continuous rotation. Sorry I don't have the part number anymore but have a look at the Grayhill webpage. They have all kinds of options available. > > Ken K4ZW > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:20 AM > To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' > Cc: k7tjr at msn.com ; k3lr at k3lr.com > Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8PRO layout > > Hello > > Is any way to modify control rotary box so rotary knob don?t stop? I want it > to rotate in any way, like StackMatch controls > > For now I will need to put my verticals in this way: > > V5 to 0 degree > V6 to 45 degrees > V7 to 90 > V8 to 135 > V1 to 180 > V2 to 225 > V3 to 270 > V4 to 315 > > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > > > --- > Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com > > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 22 17:45:45 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:45:45 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] verticals supports References: Message-ID: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> Hello Today was a bad day at CW5W trying to install verticals supports I had all my metal bases to put in the ground, the idea was to bury them with a hammer, but the top of the bar was damaged because of too much and heavy hits with the hammer So what do you use as the antennas supports? I don?t want to guyed the verticals, so need something that support them easily If you have close photos that can send to me I appreciate very much Thanks in advance 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From davek4sv at yahoo.com Sat Nov 22 18:57:17 2014 From: davek4sv at yahoo.com (Dave Anderson, K4SV) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] verticals supports In-Reply-To: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> References: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1199420386.4151123.1416700637630.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10612.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Jorge, Sorry to hear about the damage to the mounts. It sounds like the ground is very rocky or just very hard Clay. ?I would suggest you use a old screw driver and hammer and chip out a hold in the ground deep enough to hold the antenna mounts. ?Use some concrete and cement the mounts into the ground. ?Once cured you can mount your antennas. I have clay which is very hard. ?I use water to soften the ground befor digging or pounding in posts ETC. GL see you on TOP band.?Dave Anderson, K4SVTryon, NC?828 777-5088?WWW.K4SV.NET ? From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] verticals supports Hello Today was a bad day at CW5W trying to install verticals supports I had all my metal bases to put in the ground, the idea was to bury them with a hammer, but the top of the bar was damaged because of too much and heavy hits with the hammer So what do you use as the antennas supports?? I don?t want to guyed the verticals, so need something that support them easily If you have close photos that can send to me I appreciate very much Thanks in advance 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com Sat Nov 22 20:40:14 2014 From: rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com (Rich C) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:40:14 -0600 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] verticals supports In-Reply-To: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> References: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <07542ece968e586a2a07331f93d5c519.squirrel@www8.qth.com> Jorge, Is there the possibilities to get some rebar that is used in cement? On Sat, November 22, 2014 4:45 pm, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > Hello > > > Today was a bad day at CW5W trying to install verticals supports > > > I had all my metal bases to put in the ground, the idea was to bury them > with a hammer, but the top of the bar was damaged because of too much and > heavy hits with the hammer > > So what do you use as the antennas supports? I don?t want to guyed the > verticals, so need something that support them easily > > If you have close photos that can send to me I appreciate very much > > > Thanks in advance > > > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > > > > --- > Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! > Antivirus est? activa. > http://www.avast.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list > Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com > http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions > _hizantennas.com > > From rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com Sat Nov 22 21:21:06 2014 From: rich_k7zv at gphilltop.com (Rich Chatelain) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:21:06 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] verticals supports In-Reply-To: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> References: <54711217.2326340a.7a33.ffffc377@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <002101d006c4$23dce460$6b96ad20$@gphilltop.com> Is it possible to cut the bad part off with a Hacksaw by hand? -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:46 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] verticals supports Hello Today was a bad day at CW5W trying to install verticals supports I had all my metal bases to put in the ground, the idea was to bury them with a hammer, but the top of the bar was damaged because of too much and heavy hits with the hammer So what do you use as the antennas supports? I don?t want to guyed the verticals, so need something that support them easily If you have close photos that can send to me I appreciate very much Thanks in advance 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From cqkg8co at yahoo.com Sun Nov 23 17:22:24 2014 From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 22:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod Message-ID: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Last year when it rained, the Hi-Z Pro would have very bad intermod problems.? It was like the AM broadcast band was in the 160 meter band. I replaced all the coax this fall hoping that it would cure the issue.? Well, it is raining at the moment and the HI-Z is unusable. All the units are in sealed containers so they are not getting wet. When it is dry or even when there is snow on the ground there are no issues, it only seems to happen when it rainy and the ground is wet. Thank you Brian, KG8CO From k3lr at k3lr.com Sun Nov 23 17:33:09 2014 From: k3lr at k3lr.com (Tim Duffy) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:33:09 -0500 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod In-Reply-To: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Brian: You have something in your array or close to it that is not properly connected (bonded) - so you have a semi conductor (aka diode). This diode will rectify nearby strong AM broadcast stations and produce the problem you experience with your HIZ array. You must recheck everything for super tight - AND everything close to the array - must be super tight. I think you would find that a portable handheld AM scanner would pick up the trash in the 160 meter band as well - it may lead you to the problem. You have my phone number - do not hesitate to call me if I can help you sort this out. 73, Tim K3LR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:22 PM To: Hi-Z Group Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod Last year when it rained, the Hi-Z Pro would have very bad intermod problems.? It was like the AM broadcast band was in the 160 meter band. I replaced all the coax this fall hoping that it would cure the issue.? Well, it is raining at the moment and the HI-Z is unusable. All the units are in sealed containers so they are not getting wet. When it is dry or even when there is snow on the ground there are no issues, it only seems to happen when it rainy and the ground is wet. Thank you Brian, KG8CO _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From contact at hizantennas.com Sun Nov 23 17:35:02 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:35:02 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod In-Reply-To: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01d0076d$b96ad380$2c407a80$@hizantennas.com> Brian, it sounds like something on your element or element connection is very close to ground and the rain is across a small gap. What is your element construction? Can you send a picture to contact at hizantennas.com . There is 5VDC on the Hi-Z amps sourced through 43Kohms. It takes very little foliage or debris to short this out. Any limbs or grass can cause this when wet. Look it over and let me know what you find. Incidentally we had a spider die across these connections once causing the same issue. Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:22 PM To: Hi-Z Group Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod Last year when it rained, the Hi-Z Pro would have very bad intermod problems. It was like the AM broadcast band was in the 160 meter band. I replaced all the coax this fall hoping that it would cure the issue. Well, it is raining at the moment and the HI-Z is unusable. All the units are in sealed containers so they are not getting wet. When it is dry or even when there is snow on the ground there are no issues, it only seems to happen when it rainy and the ground is wet. Thank you Brian, KG8CO _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From contact at hizantennas.com Sun Nov 23 17:53:01 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:53:01 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod In-Reply-To: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1711489381.1706421.1416781344739.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106127.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003401d00770$3cb7e280$b627a780$@hizantennas.com> Brian, your added comment somehow got stripped off at the reflector so here it is Another odd thing I noticed is that the inter mod is on the NE, SE, SW and NW positions. N, E, S and W positions are fine. Brian, KG8CO This simply means that the problem will be on one of the NE,SE,SW, or NW elements and not on the others. This would be a normal response for this kind of problem. Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:22 PM To: Hi-Z Group Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Intermod Last year when it rained, the Hi-Z Pro would have very bad intermod problems. It was like the AM broadcast band was in the 160 meter band. I replaced all the coax this fall hoping that it would cure the issue. Well, it is raining at the moment and the HI-Z is unusable. All the units are in sealed containers so they are not getting wet. When it is dry or even when there is snow on the ground there are no issues, it only seems to happen when it rainy and the ground is wet. Thank you Brian, KG8CO _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From cqkg8co at yahoo.com Sun Nov 23 19:08:27 2014 From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] Inter mod III Message-ID: <382544045.4377060.1416787707344.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10665.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> First of all, I would like to thank both of you for such quick responses. Tim: 1. ?About the rectifying thing ....I understand what you are saying, and will tighten things up tomorrow. ?The AM BCB thing isn't just one? ? ?station, there a number of stations .... like the BCB band has been shifted up in frequency. ?I do not notice this issue with my beverages? ? ?and on the transmit antenna. ? ? I will make sure to check all coax connections, ground wire connections and connections to elements and install the HI-Z BCB filters. Lee: Will take photos of see up and will e-mail them over. Thank you Brian, KG8CO From cqkg8co at yahoo.com Thu Nov 27 11:00:26 2014 From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) In-Reply-To: <304907696.1861839.1417103182869.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10663.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <304907696.1861839.1417103182869.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10663.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1002941022.1857651.1417104026308.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106139.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I was out back today looking over the Hi-Z. ?And as a reminder I am using the system that allows me to share the Hi-Z between two transceivers. I was looking for the red light on the antenna element pre-amps and I noticed only the S, SW, W and NW red lights were on. ? I normally feed 13.8 volts down each of the coaxial lines, however for the Inter mod diagnosis, I disconnected one of the shack to Hi-Z coaxcables. Once I reconnected the 2nd coax feed line up to the power source all 8 antenna element pre-amps have the red light on. I am just checking to make sure that is how it is supposed to be? I was trying to work the 9K2 last night, so by the looks of things I was only using 4 active elements. Thank you Brian, KG8CO From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 21:20:33 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 00:20:33 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Message-ID: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From cqkg8co at yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 21:28:45 2014 From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 02:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] Test Message-ID: <2115062520.2398641.1417228125065.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10609.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Test From cqkg8co at yahoo.com Fri Nov 28 21:30:51 2014 From: cqkg8co at yahoo.com (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 02:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) In-Reply-To: <1002941022.1857651.1417104026308.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106139.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <304907696.1861839.1417103182869.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10663.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1002941022.1857651.1417104026308.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106139.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <919856034.2399639.1417228251293.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I was out back today looking over the Hi-Z. ?And as a reminder I am using the system that allows me to share the Hi-Z between two transceivers. I was looking for the red light on the antenna element pre-amps and I noticed only the S, SW, W and NW red lights were on. ? I normally feed 13.8 volts down each of the coaxial lines, however for the Inter mod diagnosis, I disconnected one of the shack to Hi-Z coax cables. Once I reconnected the 2nd coax feed line up to the power source all 8 antenna element pre-amps have the red light on. I am just checking to make sure that is how it is supposed to be? I was trying to work the 9K2 last night, so by the looks of things I was only using 4 active elements. Thank you Brian, KG8CO From k7tjr at msn.com Fri Nov 28 21:50:30 2014 From: k7tjr at msn.com (Lee K7TJR) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:50:30 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Jorge, You need to check antennas 1,3,5,and 7 for 4 to 5 Volts DC on each antenna. Any antenna with terminals reversed or shorted to the ground peg could cause no voltage and possible noise. Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From contact at hizantennas.com Fri Nov 28 21:52:55 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:52:55 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) In-Reply-To: <919856034.2399639.1417228251293.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <304907696.1861839.1417103182869.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10663.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1002941022.1857651.1417104026308.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106139.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <919856034.2399639.1417228251293.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004d01d00b7f$94329740$bc97c5c0$@hizantennas.com> Brian, All element amps must have their red LEDs lit for the array to work correctly. How is it working now? Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:31 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) I was out back today looking over the Hi-Z. And as a reminder I am using the system that allows me to share the Hi-Z between two transceivers. I was looking for the red light on the antenna element pre-amps and I noticed only the S, SW, W and NW red lights were on. I normally feed 13.8 volts down each of the coaxial lines, however for the Inter mod diagnosis, I disconnected one of the shack to Hi-Z coax cables. Once I reconnected the 2nd coax feed line up to the power source all 8 antenna element pre-amps have the red light on. I am just checking to make sure that is how it is supposed to be? I was trying to work the 9K2 last night, so by the looks of things I was only using 4 active elements. Thank you Brian, KG8CO _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From contact at hizantennas.com Fri Nov 28 22:00:18 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:00:18 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 22:19:36 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 01:19:36 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> Message-ID: <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From contact at hizantennas.com Fri Nov 28 22:27:43 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:27:43 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) In-Reply-To: <701970157.2424995.1417230447693.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106100.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <004d01d00b7f$94329740$bc97c5c0$@hizantennas.com> <701970157.2424995.1417230447693.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106100.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005101d00b84$70dc2a90$52947fb0$@hizantennas.com> Brian, Some of your postings got bounced for some reason. It may have just been format I don?t know. Both controllers must be powered. You can just jumper between the two or power the second through the coax. Either way. You do not have to send power up coaxes for both. But you do need to have ground and power for each system either jumpered between the boxes or fed up the coax as you have done. We usually try to send enough jumpers to make this system connect together with one source of power. The little coax power in jumpers must be in place on all of the boxes also. The second feedline is apparently providing your ground connection to the second controller and elements. All boxes must have a ground connection either through the ground wires or the coaxes that interconnect the boxes. Lee From: Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO [mailto:cqkg8co at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:07 PM To: contact at hizantennas.com Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) Hello Lee ... Since I reconnected the 2nd feedline all 8 LED's are lit and it looks like were are in business. So I guess the answer to my question .... Is since I am using a two transceiver set up ..... it looks like that I will need to feed power down both of the shack to HI-Z coax cables. Do you agree? Also, I see others postings, but I don't see mine. Is that usual? Thank you Brian, KG8CO _____ From: "contact at hizantennas.com " > To: "'Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO'" >; 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 9:52 PM Subject: RE: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) Brian, All element amps must have their red LEDs lit for the array to work correctly. How is it working now? Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com ] On Behalf Of Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:31 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] 160 Meter Inter mod Followup (new question) I was out back today looking over the Hi-Z. And as a reminder I am using the system that allows me to share the Hi-Z between two transceivers. I was looking for the red light on the antenna element pre-amps and I noticed only the S, SW, W and NW red lights were on. I normally feed 13.8 volts down each of the coaxial lines, however for the Inter mod diagnosis, I disconnected one of the shack to Hi-Z coax cables. Once I reconnected the 2nd coax feed line up to the power source all 8 antenna element pre-amps have the red light on. I am just checking to make sure that is how it is supposed to be? I was trying to work the 9K2 last night, so by the looks of things I was only using 4 active elements. Thank you Brian, KG8CO _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_hizantennas.com From contact at hizantennas.com Fri Nov 28 22:35:01 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:35:01 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 22:50:59 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 01:50:59 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> Message-ID: <547942a3.0e7ae00a.0a94.ffffb225@mx.google.com> Thanks Lee Will do tomorrow in the day 73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 29 06:08:00 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:08:00 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> Message-ID: <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From k7tjr at msn.com Sat Nov 29 12:48:11 2014 From: k7tjr at msn.com (Lee K7TJR) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:48:11 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Gm Jorge Reading only 2.8 Volts on antennas means that your voltage is very low at the system in the field. This is due to the resistance of the RG-6 cable you are using to feed the array. One easy way to correct this problem is to use a higher voltage supply in the shack to send higher voltage down the cable. Some have found a wall wart that has a higher voltage like 15 volts and used this to raise the voltage. Do not apply the higher voltage to the wireless unit in your shack, leave it on your shack 13.8 volt supply. You can apply as much as 25 volts DC to the power jack or terminals on the back of the shack switch to raise the voltage in the field. You will need to get that voltage up for the array to work properly. So if you have a 15 Volt or so wall wart or a variable supply you can use you should try to get the voltage in the field up to at least 12 volts. Your wireless units are just like wifi signals. The boxes need to be in the clear for maximum signal. There are tiny antennas inside the black boxes. You may have to put the transmitter unit at the shack in a window or higher in the air for best signal. Personally I have one mounted at about 15 feet up on the side of my tower and I get full strength 1000 feet away at the array location in the field. I am using 25 volts at the shack to get enough voltage 1000 feet away. You should not have to go this high with only 350 feet. Keep me posted, Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:08 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 29 15:14:22 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:14:22 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <547a2920.68278c0a.3862.361e@mx.google.com> Hello Lee I don?t have the wireless unit. Mine is wired. In the shack I have this two boxes (will send you directly I don?t know if the list allow attachments) I have a wallet PS that give 17.5 volts, will try with it. So I leave 13.8 volts on the control unit and apply 18 volts to the power injector, that?s right? 73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Lee K7TJR Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 03:48 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Gm Jorge Reading only 2.8 Volts on antennas means that your voltage is very low at the system in the field. This is due to the resistance of the RG-6 cable you are using to feed the array. One easy way to correct this problem is to use a higher voltage supply in the shack to send higher voltage down the cable. Some have found a wall wart that has a higher voltage like 15 volts and used this to raise the voltage. Do not apply the higher voltage to the wireless unit in your shack, leave it on your shack 13.8 volt supply. You can apply as much as 25 volts DC to the power jack or terminals on the back of the shack switch to raise the voltage in the field. You will need to get that voltage up for the array to work properly. So if you have a 15 Volt or so wall wart or a variable supply you can use you should try to get the voltage in the field up to at least 12 volts. Your wireless units are just like wifi signals. The boxes need to be in the clear for maximum signal. There are tiny antennas inside the black boxes. You may have to put the transmitter unit at the shack in a window or higher in the air for best signal. Personally I have one mounted at about 15 feet up on the side of my tower and I get full strength 1000 feet away at the array location in the field. I am using 25 volts at the shack to get enough voltage 1000 feet away. You should not have to go this high with only 350 feet. Keep me posted, Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:08 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From contact at hizantennas.com Sat Nov 29 15:44:11 2014 From: contact at hizantennas.com (contact at hizantennas.com) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:44:11 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <547a2920.68278c0a.3862.361e@mx.google.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> <547a2920.68278c0a.3862.361e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <001201d00c15$3bc30ef0$b3492cd0$@hizantennas.com> Hello Jorge, Yes, the box with the signal strength LEDs is the wireless switching unit. Yes, just supply the 18volts to the power injector and all will be fine. You might measure the wall wart when it is connected to verify its actual voltage. Hopefullly it is not a switching type as it may cause noise on the array If it is. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:14 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Lee I don?t have the wireless unit. Mine is wired. In the shack I have this two boxes (will send you directly I don?t know if the list allow attachments) I have a wallet PS that give 17.5 volts, will try with it. So I leave 13.8 volts on the control unit and apply 18 volts to the power injector, that?s right? 73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Lee K7TJR Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 03:48 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Gm Jorge Reading only 2.8 Volts on antennas means that your voltage is very low at the system in the field. This is due to the resistance of the RG-6 cable you are using to feed the array. One easy way to correct this problem is to use a higher voltage supply in the shack to send higher voltage down the cable. Some have found a wall wart that has a higher voltage like 15 volts and used this to raise the voltage. Do not apply the higher voltage to the wireless unit in your shack, leave it on your shack 13.8 volt supply. You can apply as much as 25 volts DC to the power jack or terminals on the back of the shack switch to raise the voltage in the field. You will need to get that voltage up for the array to work properly. So if you have a 15 Volt or so wall wart or a variable supply you can use you should try to get the voltage in the field up to at least 12 volts. Your wireless units are just like wifi signals. The boxes need to be in the clear for maximum signal. There are tiny antennas inside the black boxes. You may have to put the transmitter unit at the shack in a window or higher in the air for best signal. Personally I have one mounted at about 15 feet up on the side of my tower and I get full strength 1000 feet away at the array location in the field. I am using 25 volts at the shack to get enough voltage 1000 feet away. You should not have to go this high with only 350 feet. Keep me posted, Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:08 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 29 16:00:19 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:00:19 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <001201d00c15$3bc30ef0$b3492cd0$@hizantennas.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> <547a2920.68278c0a.3862.361e@mx.google.com> <001201d00c15$3bc30ef0$b3492cd0$@hizantennas.com> Message-ID: <547a342b.05658c0a.aa48.402a@mx.google.com> Upps! Is a switching AC/DC power adapter, ARIANA, part number AII-181WU-18 :-( So what do you think for today, leave it with 12 volts or put this ARIANA adapter that is switching? Can you recommend me a good one, maybe a part number from mouser or another place? Thanks, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 06:44 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Jorge, Yes, the box with the signal strength LEDs is the wireless switching unit. Yes, just supply the 18volts to the power injector and all will be fine. You might measure the wall wart when it is connected to verify its actual voltage. Hopefullly it is not a switching type as it may cause noise on the array If it is. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:14 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Lee I don?t have the wireless unit. Mine is wired. In the shack I have this two boxes (will send you directly I don?t know if the list allow attachments) I have a wallet PS that give 17.5 volts, will try with it. So I leave 13.8 volts on the control unit and apply 18 volts to the power injector, that?s right? 73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Lee K7TJR Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 03:48 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Gm Jorge Reading only 2.8 Volts on antennas means that your voltage is very low at the system in the field. This is due to the resistance of the RG-6 cable you are using to feed the array. One easy way to correct this problem is to use a higher voltage supply in the shack to send higher voltage down the cable. Some have found a wall wart that has a higher voltage like 15 volts and used this to raise the voltage. Do not apply the higher voltage to the wireless unit in your shack, leave it on your shack 13.8 volt supply. You can apply as much as 25 volts DC to the power jack or terminals on the back of the shack switch to raise the voltage in the field. You will need to get that voltage up for the array to work properly. So if you have a 15 Volt or so wall wart or a variable supply you can use you should try to get the voltage in the field up to at least 12 volts. Your wireless units are just like wifi signals. The boxes need to be in the clear for maximum signal. There are tiny antennas inside the black boxes. You may have to put the transmitter unit at the shack in a window or higher in the air for best signal. Personally I have one mounted at about 15 feet up on the side of my tower and I get full strength 1000 feet away at the array location in the field. I am using 25 volts at the shack to get enough voltage 1000 feet away. You should not have to go this high with only 350 feet. Keep me posted, Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:08 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com From k7tjr at msn.com Sat Nov 29 16:04:13 2014 From: k7tjr at msn.com (Lee K7TJR) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:04:13 -0800 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: <547a342b.05658c0a.aa48.402a@mx.google.com> References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> <547a2920.68278c0a.3862.361e@mx.google.com> <001201d00c15$3bc30ef0$b3492cd0$@hizantennas.com> <547a342b.05658c0a.aa48.402a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Jorge, It won't hurt to try the adapter but if you get buzzing and birdie noises it probably is the cause. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:00 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Upps! Is a switching AC/DC power adapter, ARIANA, part number AII-181WU-18 :-( So what do you think for today, leave it with 12 volts or put this ARIANA adapter that is switching? Can you recommend me a good one, maybe a part number from mouser or another place? Thanks, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 06:44 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Jorge, Yes, the box with the signal strength LEDs is the wireless switching unit. Yes, just supply the 18volts to the power injector and all will be fine. You might measure the wall wart when it is connected to verify its actual voltage. Hopefullly it is not a switching type as it may cause noise on the array If it is. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:14 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Lee I don?t have the wireless unit. Mine is wired. In the shack I have this two boxes (will send you directly I don?t know if the list allow attachments) I have a wallet PS that give 17.5 volts, will try with it. So I leave 13.8 volts on the control unit and apply 18 volts to the power injector, that?s right? 73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Lee K7TJR Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 03:48 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Gm Jorge Reading only 2.8 Volts on antennas means that your voltage is very low at the system in the field. This is due to the resistance of the RG-6 cable you are using to feed the array. One easy way to correct this problem is to use a higher voltage supply in the shack to send higher voltage down the cable. Some have found a wall wart that has a higher voltage like 15 volts and used this to raise the voltage. Do not apply the higher voltage to the wireless unit in your shack, leave it on your shack 13.8 volt supply. You can apply as much as 25 volts DC to the power jack or terminals on the back of the shack switch to raise the voltage in the field. You will need to get that voltage up for the array to work properly. So if you have a 15 Volt or so wall wart or a variable supply you can use you should try to get the voltage in the field up to at least 12 volts. Your wireless units are just like wifi signals. The boxes need to be in the clear for maximum signal. There are tiny antennas inside the black boxes. You may have to put the transmitter unit at the shack in a window or higher in the air for best signal. Personally I have one mounted at about 15 feet up on the side of my tower and I get full strength 1000 feet away at the array location in the field. I am using 25 volts at the shack to get enough voltage 1000 feet away. You should not have to go this high with only 350 feet. Keep me posted, Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:08 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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Antivirus est? activa. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions mailing list Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions at hizantennas.com http://mail.hizantennas.com/mailman/listinfo/hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions_h izantennas.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Sat Nov 29 16:46:59 2014 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:46:59 -0200 Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise In-Reply-To: References: <54792d73.f1508c0a.68d5.ffff9e2d@mx.google.com> <004e01d00b80$9bc93a80$d35baf80$@hizantennas.com> <54793b47.4903e00a.4955.ffffa31c@mx.google.com> <005601d00b85$75a35a20$60ea0e60$@hizantennas.com> <5479a90e.0948e00a.6957.1982@mx.google.com> <547a2920.68278c0a.3862.361e@mx.google.com> <001201d00c15$3bc30ef0$b3492cd0$@hizantennas.com> <547a342b.05658c0a.aa48.402a@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <547a3ed5.8524e00a.5a37.ffffe213@mx.google.com> Lee I tried it to measure. Now I have 17.5 volts in the power injector and in the antennas I have 3.3 volts (2.8 with 12 volts on power injector), so seems I will need more voltage at power injector, maybe a 24 volts adapter. Will try to find a good one for the future. For now is quite, statics are high so I can?t notice any birdie Thanks for all! 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Lee K7TJR Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 07:04 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Jorge, It won't hurt to try the adapter but if you get buzzing and birdie noises it probably is the cause. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:00 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Upps! Is a switching AC/DC power adapter, ARIANA, part number AII-181WU-18 :-( So what do you think for today, leave it with 12 volts or put this ARIANA adapter that is switching? Can you recommend me a good one, maybe a part number from mouser or another place? Thanks, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 06:44 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Jorge, Yes, the box with the signal strength LEDs is the wireless switching unit. Yes, just supply the 18volts to the power injector and all will be fine. You might measure the wall wart when it is connected to verify its actual voltage. Hopefullly it is not a switching type as it may cause noise on the array If it is. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 12:14 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Lee I don?t have the wireless unit. Mine is wired. In the shack I have this two boxes (will send you directly I don?t know if the list allow attachments) I have a wallet PS that give 17.5 volts, will try with it. So I leave 13.8 volts on the control unit and apply 18 volts to the power injector, that?s right? 73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de Lee K7TJR Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 03:48 p.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Gm Jorge Reading only 2.8 Volts on antennas means that your voltage is very low at the system in the field. This is due to the resistance of the RG-6 cable you are using to feed the array. One easy way to correct this problem is to use a higher voltage supply in the shack to send higher voltage down the cable. Some have found a wall wart that has a higher voltage like 15 volts and used this to raise the voltage. Do not apply the higher voltage to the wireless unit in your shack, leave it on your shack 13.8 volt supply. You can apply as much as 25 volts DC to the power jack or terminals on the back of the shack switch to raise the voltage in the field. You will need to get that voltage up for the array to work properly. So if you have a 15 Volt or so wall wart or a variable supply you can use you should try to get the voltage in the field up to at least 12 volts. Your wireless units are just like wifi signals. The boxes need to be in the clear for maximum signal. There are tiny antennas inside the black boxes. You may have to put the transmitter unit at the shack in a window or higher in the air for best signal. Personally I have one mounted at about 15 feet up on the side of my tower and I get full strength 1000 feet away at the array location in the field. I am using 25 volts at the shack to get enough voltage 1000 feet away. You should not have to go this high with only 350 feet. Keep me posted, Lee K7TJR -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 3:08 AM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee You are right, antenna #5 is bad connected, GND to antenna and Antenna to ground :-) Will fix it for this night I read 2.8 volts on each antenna? What that means? Bad ground? And on the control box, the strength is not very good, just one green red. Sometimes just the yellow one, and sometimes grow till the second green led is flashing. I have 350 ft of RG6 from antennas to shack 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:35 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Jorge, It sounds like you have one of the Hi-Z amp antenna input wires on one of 1,3,5,7 reversed with the ground wire. You can simply use a voltmeter to measure the 4 to 5 Volts DC between the element and the ground peg you are using. Each element should read around 4 to 5 Volts DC. You may also have an element shorted to ground by some unknown foliage or closely touching wire? Either thing will cause this. You can simply inspect each Hi-Z amp to make sure the antenna and ground connections are correct. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 7:20 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hi Lee Antennas 2468 are OPK Antennas 1357 have a huuuuuummmmmm noise How can I test DC voltage? Thanks, -----Mensaje original----- De: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] En nombre de contact at hizantennas.com Enviado el: s?bado, 29 de noviembre de 2014 01:00 a.m. Para: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Asunto: Re: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello again Jorge I am not sure what you are telling us. Which antennas seem to be working 1357 0r 2468 ? They are separate systems that switch between the two. You need to recheck all your connections and make sure they are tightened correctly. Also test each antenna for the DC voltage as mentioned before. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions [mailto:hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions-bounces at hizantennas.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Diez - CX6VM Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 6:21 PM To: 'Hi-Z Receiving Array Discussions' Subject: [Hi-zreceivingarraydiscussions] HiZ 4-8 PRO noise Hello Finished installing all the system at 23:30 UTC!, very tired HiZ is listening, not as good as my beverage, but I noticed I have a noise on antennas 1, 3, 5, 7 Antennas 2, 4, 6, 8 are very quite Any idea what?s wrong? 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W --- Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protecci?n de avast! 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